I have not used an exernal flash at all and want to get started.
I'm interested in what would be a good flash for a Canon Digital SLR.
I'm interested in battery packs. I rented a battery pack and flash one weekend. It worked great but I didn't write down any of the gear. I think the battery pack would be essential if shooting at Burningman where there isn't much opportunity to recharge.
Strobing also interests me. I saw a picture of a fire dancer who looked like she had 10 arms. THe flash must have strobed. Is there a way to get a standard flash to strobe or is it just specialty flashes.
Focusing: I've heard that the Infrared sensor can be used on flashes to focus in low light. I'm very interested in this. I like low light photos, thus the reason I haven't used flashes much, but I have a hard time focusing in low light. Any extra help would be great, but I'd like to get the aided focusing with out the flash firing.
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Sex, drugs, and Speedlites
Sat, February 16, 2008 - 5:00 PMI use the 580EX II speedlite. There are CP-E4 external battery packs available for it (and most canon flashes, the battery packs take AA's as well, just more of them so you don't have to change them as often). I just burn through AA's and keep changing them because I dont need a wire coming out of my flash to get in the way. It actually ejects the batteries with quite a bit of force (which is good because when shooting constantly they are too hot to touch) and then I just throw 4 more in.
At any rate, canon doesn't make a rechargeable battery pack for any of its flashes. And using rechargeable AA's doesn't work very well. They don't provide enough power and have to be changed much more often, and they die very quickly because being abused like that really shortens their lifecycles. In fact I think there is a danger that certain types of rechargeable AA batteries might explode under such abuse.
Mine does stroboscopic, you're limited in your power output depending on how many strobes and how quickly they fire. I'm not sure but I think the 430ex probably does strobe as well. Its called "multi" in the flash's menu.
The focusing assist is awesome. The built in focus assist on my rebel XTi is so useless I actually disabled it because all it does is distract people and animals, not focus the camera. The focus assist on the 580EXII will focus perfectly on a FLAT WHITE WALL from 20 feet away (canon claims 30ft but I haven't tried it) in a totally pitch black room. Thats something regular autofocus cant even do in daylight usually, and the flash WILL fire up the focus assist in daylight if the scene has too little contrast to get an autofocus lock. Some cameras can disable the flash, I dont know if this will turn off its AF assist beam or not (it probably will). There is a trick you can do though. Set the 580ex to master, then set it not to fire its own flash. It still fires a preflash (so it knows the exposure to send the non-existant slave), but it SHOULD happen before the exposure happens. Although I've never tried it without an actual slave attached, I just tested it and it appears to work. I always just use bounce flash or the ST-E2.
Another option for assisted focus on the canon is the ST-E2 speedlite transmitter. Its not a flash, but it attaches to the hotshoe and sends ETTL-II signals back and forth between remote speedlites via infrared light. Its great to get your flash off camera (light coming from the camera is flat, unflattering and abnormal looking) and if you don't own a flash, it'll still give you great focus assistance. Its also much lighter than a flash (its the size of a pack of cigarettes) and its expensive, but still cheaper than even the 480ex. If you only want auto-focus assist, this is the way to go.
As for burning man, there is dust in the air even on the clearest night that you cant see with the naked eye. Fire off a flash anywhere near your camera and you're going to have white specks of dust out of focus (huge and blurry) all over the image. Its the dust about 2 feet in front of your lens and it will drive you completely insane. You really need to get the flash off-camera or even better invest in a battery powered studio strobe kit like the Hensel Porty for an arm and a leg or buy a cheap (as cheap as a flash) used studio strobe and just run a long extension cord to your friendly neighbor's generator.
Then again, this post is old, so you may have already experienced that evil dust reflection. :)
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Re: Sex, drugs, and Speedlites
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 11:05 AMI have a 430 ex Ive seen multi in the menu but never used it. I think I know what im doing tonight :) -
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Re: Sex, drugs, and Speedlites
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 5:23 PMHere is an image of a poi spinner done at 2hz multi for 1.6 second exposure (3 flashes)
www.flickr.com/photos/lar...0988506233/
If you continue to click on the rightmost of the two thumbnail images to the right, you can see a few more of the stroboscopic images I took that night.
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Re: Flash questions (Canon)
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 11:24 AMThere are two external battery packs one could use depending on your budget and which strobe you wish to obtain.
If you wish to use the Canon 580EX II, you must get the more costlier Quantum Turbo pack and Cord combination, which plugs in their High Voltage socket, the Canon branded external battery, I've used from a friend sucks, the recycle is too slow.
I've used Canon 550 EX with Quantum Battery one plus pack at Burning man which is less expensive than the turbo, however this is not a high voltage pack.
The cord which is designated for the Quantum Battery one plus for the 580 EX II will not allow the door on the battery compartment to close which will compromise the air sealing capabilities of the unit.
I read somewhere that Lymedyne battery packs could be used for Canon 589 EXII as external high Voltage battery packs, but I have not personally experienced this.
At Burningman I have used Hensel 1200 Porty b about $1900-$2200 and Profoto 7B2 about $4000 new. If you have cash, I would go with Lymedyne kit or Profoto 600 b battery powered pack.
My setup at Burningman was using Pocketwizards in both the Profoto and Hensel setups and an Avenger rolling movie stand. Multiple flashes can be achieve with an assistant hitting the button several times, with the shutter opened.
check out my pics:
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Re: Flash questions (Canon)
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 5:30 PMLike I said, Canon just makes the one battery pack. I knew there were other companies that did, but knew nothing about them. Thanks for the info.
Are the pocket wizards worth the investment? Have you ever used the ST-E2 with remote E-TTL flashes? I'm not sure if range/angle/reliability is more important, or the fancy metering ability of E-TTL. I must say I really like the ST-E2 and I can think of some really nice things I can get for $400, like another 580exII :)
I really don't wanna go dodge poi chains to hold out a grey card, ya know? I realize with a strobe unit its a hell of a lot better than a sync cord, but for a canon flash? -
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Re: Flash questions (Canon)
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 5:50 PMLars the Pocketwizards are used with the Profoto and Hensel pack. Canon camera flashes have built in radio control with each other, one could be master the other slave. -
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Canon IR wireless vs Radio wireless
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 10:12 AMCanon uses an IR light communication system (not radio), which has great range indoors but outdoors not so far. You also have to keep the flashes within a 40 degree arc of the front of the camera or they cant "See" the signal from the camera. If I'm in front of the flash, and there is nothing to bounce the IR signal back to it (say if I were outdoors) it wouldn't fire. Same if it were too far off to my side.
Thats how I do things now, ST-E2 on the camera controls the 580exII on a light stand. Just wondering if you've tried the canon system. Especially outdoors shooting fire performers, I haven't tried my setup on fire performers yet.
If I switch to pocket wizards, I gain range and the ability to position myself anywhere I want with relation to the flash, the problem is I loose the ability to do E-TTL metering which is nice because I do everything manual except for flash output. I can only keep track of so many things at once! Especially with a moving target.
I know pocket wizard is the way to go with a strobe. The only signal you can send it is "fire!" but with the canon speedlites I can send them all of the same E-TTL metering information they'd get if they were on the hotshoe.
It sounds like you're saying stick with the canon system. I just wonder if you've tried it and if you've had any problems with it outdoors. Strobist seems to say radio is the only way to go, but I'm not taking that advice at face value because it costs a lot more for radios and I loose some flash metering ability. Just wondering what your thoughts were.
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Re: Canon IR wireless vs Radio wireless
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 7:09 PMMy opinion of the Strobist (users), they are mostly people with limited budgets, who usually are not able to see differences between pro-gear and DIY. Some people can make due with DIY.
I have found pro Studio strobe pack that is electrically/ battery powered more volts allows for greater image dynamic range and recycle times that is not possible with a camera flash. There are some who may disagree with my thoughts. But even using an older electrically powered strobe pack to light up fire performers is between than using a camera flash that will take more than 3 secs to recycle. Look it this way, most fire performers burn time is 2 minutes. How many shots you think I can get off in two minutes with a recycle time of 0.8 sec? compared with 3 seconds recycle time? -
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Re: Canon IR wireless vs Radio wireless
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 11:19 PMTrue, pro equipment is the best bet. They do indeed have some really cheap ways to do things, and some hack equipment. But not everyone can drop $4000 on portable gear. I have become fascinated by the possibilities inherent in gear that you can carry around everywhere. I can't portage my light gear in daily situations. But having a couple of pocket wizards live in my camera bag, with a clamp or 2 makes it easier to throw a quick little light on any subject. Best case is the use of pro gear, with all the controllability that ensues with having that gear. But I figure that the more flexibility that I have, the better I can create my vision. -
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Re: Canon IR wireless vs Radio wireless
Wed, February 20, 2008 - 5:25 PMI *heart* my clamp. Its not as good as a light stand, but it fits in my bag! :)
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Re: Canon IR wireless vs Radio wireless
Wed, February 20, 2008 - 5:20 PMYes, I'm quite limited by my budget. Although I do have the one benefit of ultra-portability of my setup.
I do drool over the light intensity and quality of the studio strobes, as well as the recycle time. Although its way more than 3 times the money for 3 times the recycle speed.
Maybe I could sell a kidney or something... :)
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Re: Flash questions (Canon)
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 12:24 PMKyle, check out the Strobist site, at strobist.blogspot.com/
They have some great reading on specifics of off camera strobes.
